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Topic: Recommendations for New PC
Posted By: Tybox
Subject: Recommendations for New PC
Date Posted: 24/September/2005 at 3:59pm

What you think?

First off Dell or Alienware?

 

P4 or AMD 64?

Graphics card?

Would probably get this in about 3 months so keep that in mind.




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Posted By: Jbanicar
Date Posted: 24/September/2005 at 4:08pm

Custom order your parts with an AMD64 set-up; AMD is both cheaper and just as good as their P4 brethren.  The money you will save can then be spent maxing out your RAM slots and/or a nicer video card + nicer motherboard.

Of course, I suggest the above because we have quite a few friends who can put it together for us; so, it isn't usually that big of a hassle anyway.

But your origional question, as it stands, I would: go AMD over Pentium.  In choosing between Dell or Alienware, I would go Dell cause they seem more user friendly and reliable.  Graphics card: anyone that was the "new thing" 6 or 8 months ago, which in 3 months from now, will be even more cheap.



Posted By: Tybox
Date Posted: 24/September/2005 at 4:16pm
Yeah I think I will buy items and put it together that way, my buddy can build things pretty good.

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Posted By: Preach
Date Posted: 24/September/2005 at 4:39pm
Stay away from the PC vendors unless you are a complete n00b who knows nothing about building a computer, or don't have a friend to build it for you. Unless of course you have tons of money to just waste by over paying.

AMD64 is definately the way to go for gaming. The single core (IE: 3800+, 4000+ etc.) are currently the kings of gaming. The new AMD X2's are more for multi tasking; graphics rendering, video editing etc. They are still good for gaming, but the single core A64's are better. The A64 4000+ is an AMD FX-53 relabled as 4000+.

As for graphics card, I would pick up either the 7800GTX for GT. In 3 months the price on the cards should drop a couple bucks. If that is still too rich for your blood then perpahs a 6800GT, they are pretty cheap right now, and still awesome cards.


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Posted By: Khemosabe
Date Posted: 24/September/2005 at 5:27pm

As with everything else... it depends.  Visit the Dell Outlet and look at the refurbed systems, they're pretty damn cheap and I've bought 3 for myself and relatives in the last year and a half and had zero - thats right - zero zip zilch nada problems with any of them.  Of course if you want AMD you have to go elsewhere.  Building your own is a good way to go also, but I deal with computers all day every day at work and I prefer not to have to work on mine when I get home.  Just my $0.02.



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Posted By: w1ndex
Date Posted: 25/September/2005 at 3:26pm

I have built and maintained my systems for many years. I started out similar to you. I got sh*tty service from alienware (not to mention the sticker shock) which promted me to build my very first. Ever since it has been one heck of a ride.

Currentset up:

Athlon64 +3200

MSI neo (something or other) mobo

ATI radeon 9800pro 256 AGP

1GB value ram ddr400

SB audigy2 plat

 

If I wasnt leaving in january I would be upgrading. I usually upgrade every fall/winter. I would switch to a PCI express card thats more current, maybe a motherboard with more RAM capacity to start. From there expand ram upgrade cpu.

 

Building your own is rewarding and simple. If you have questions feel free to ask there are alot of folks here with tons of experience. Plus building your own is very cheap. Try http://www.pricewatch.com - www.pricewatch.com for the best and most current prices.



Posted By: Preach
Date Posted: 25/September/2005 at 4:12pm
I miss windex 

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 26/September/2005 at 9:39am

dont rule out dual core for gaming use... i have a dual core processor, and that allows me to get 50+fps in a red alert while recording with gamecam =)

anyway, definitely go AMD for gaming, a64 4000+ are really nice for overclocking, and not too expensive.

im an ATI person at heart, but i have to say nvidia are on top of the video card market right now, 7800gtx is a beast.



Posted By: Protic
Date Posted: 29/September/2005 at 6:53pm
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/ - www.tigerdirect.ca (canadian) http://www.newegg.com/ - www.newegg.com  . usually u can get a decent 'barebones' system. But ya AMD64 4000+ is the way to go for processors, barebones will usually come without a HD and sometimes without RAM and without windows which usually reduces the price quite a bit when u buy these things seperately (and just download windows or borrow from a friend) Go for the PCI express MB and video card if you can afford it, AGP will be gone within 3 years.

as far as planetside performance a new computer is not always the solution, managing, and maintaing your computer and paging file is something u should always be doing, check out http://psforums.station.sony.com/ps/board/message?board.id=pstechsupport&message.id=5936 - http://psforums.station.sony.com/ps/board/message?board.id=p stechsupport&message.id=5936  for tips on that.

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Posted By: solitary00
Date Posted: 30/September/2005 at 11:25am
Stay the hell away from TigerDirect...

Unless they are different in canadia, they're the skeezy flea market of computer retailers..



Posted By: Drunkula-k
Date Posted: 02/October/2005 at 10:35am

Tigerdirect sucks.  I work for a company that tried to save money by buying from them and got a 70% DOA rate over the course of buying around 800 comps for the company.  Bad move.   Let's just not go there.  New egg is decent but doesn't have much for customer support if anything is crapped out.   Ebay is for people who need to unload crap that has a minor problem but the part still works so just stay away from there.

I tend to buy parts that do not fail often like Drives, fans, cases, sound cards, network cards, and such online.  Reason being, is screwing with shipping if anything is dead when you get it is a hassel and you may as well only buy the stuff likely to be good when you get it.   I buy things like a Vid card or Power supplies through somewhere like Best Buy so you can walk into the store and bitch if need be.  Plus the extended warrantires are nice if you screw something up by overlocking the hell out of it. 

As for what to buy, that really depends on your budget. 

I have a 3800+ AMD, 2 gigs of pc3200 OCZ ram, and a 6800gt.  I managed to get 300+ FPS in PS in sanct, and around 40FPS at the lowest in the zerg.  I don't see the lil red numbers anymore.  I figure that's pretty good.   I got all of it for under $1200.  

I think if I changed anything, I would have went with PCI-E just to have a comp ready to upgrade later.    That's something to keep in mind for companies like Dell.  They use propriatary motherboards (they only work with Dell parts) and you can't ever upgrade the motherboard again if you buy from them unless you buy a whole comp.  They are solid and stable I'll give them that, but I don't like the inablility to upgrade later. 

What's the budget?  That will help to know.



Posted By: FPpunk
Date Posted: 02/October/2005 at 11:02pm
I just built a new PC a few days ago went with:
Epox Mobo
AMD 64 3500+ (939)
2 gigs of PC3200 RAM
and a nice x850xt
I havn't seen anything under 50 FPS in PS and most of the time I get 100 easy, so ownage.

Buy off Newegg they own but I got my parts from a guy I know who builds comps for a living(good stuff at cost for the win)


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