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Topic: Computer Help Needed
Posted By: Sparticus
Subject: Computer Help Needed
Date Posted: 16/June/2006 at 6:47pm

Hey fellas. My brother is building a new rig and has come across a problem. Unfortunately, I have no idea how to help him out. I was hoping someone might know what is causing the problem, and point us in the right direction for a fix.

Problem: He turns on the computer, runs smooth for about 30 seconds and then all of a sudden it just cuts off. Completely loses power and he has to cut it on again, only for the same thing to happen.

Specs:

AMD Athlon 64 FX 60 Processor

EVGA 7950 1gb vid card

ASUS A8N-SLI Premium Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard

SILVERSTONE SST-ST75ZF ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS 12V 750W Power Supply 90 - 264V OCP,OVP,SCP,NLO

 

Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks fellas. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131540 -



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Posted By: Fidelio
Date Posted: 16/June/2006 at 7:36pm
check to make sure the 4 pin plug to the motherboard by the cpu is plugged in.

check to make sure the power and reset headers are plugged into the motherboard the right way. if one is turned around, switching the ground and hot wire that can happen. check the mobo manual for pin assignments. if you think you have it right, turn it around anyway. this is a common mistake since they're just pins capable of being plugged in backwards and there's little commonality between mobo's which way the labeled side of the plug faces.

if that doesn't work, take out the vid card and unplug everything and leave just the cpu (and cpu fan) plugged in. if it stays up, put the ram back in and try again. try adding 1 piece at a time until you find the one causing it to fail. if you find one causing it to fail make sure it's plugged in correctly, if it is, try a different power lead to that component from the power supply.

also, and this is a longer step to take, if the aforementioned doesn't work, take everything out of the case and assemble the components on a non-conductive surface such as a cardboard box. power it up and see if it stays up. if so then you likely have a screw. standoff, or other piece of metal contacting the mobo where it shouldn't when it's in the case. just make sure every standoff is where it should be under the mobo and you dont have any extras underneath. also make sure you're only putting screws in the 8 or 9 holes specifically there to hold the mobo in the case, no more, no less.


can post more later if none of those works.


Posted By: Khemosabe
Date Posted: 17/June/2006 at 12:24am
Also make sure you've got adequate thermal grease between the CPU and its heatsink, 30s is about the time the CPU could take to reach its thermal trip point which would shut down the system.

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Posted By: solitary00
Date Posted: 17/June/2006 at 12:27am
Originally posted by Khemosabe

Also make sure you've got adequate thermal grease between the CPU and its heatsink, 30s is about the time the CPU could take to reach its thermal trip point which would shut down the system.


FYI Spart, you should be able to monitor the CPU temp and it's safety threshold in the BIOS if this is something you wanted to check before pulling the HSF.


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Posted By: Goffin
Date Posted: 17/June/2006 at 11:13am

my guess...Bad power supply. 



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Posted By: Xenetic
Date Posted: 18/June/2006 at 5:17am
I have had that happen, not exactly, but similar. Power supply just wasnt able to push my hardware, so it just gave up.

FYI: In most cases 500w doesn't = 500w


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Posted By: Fidelio
Date Posted: 18/June/2006 at 8:38pm
Guys, the power supply he has is bad ass and should be able to pump ANYTHING he puts in that case. It's  $200 power supply.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817256006 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168172560 06


Posted By: Preach
Date Posted: 18/June/2006 at 9:01pm
I agree that the power supply should not have any problems in theory, but maybe he got a lemon. I would try a different power supply and see if the same thing happens.

It might also be a RAM compatability issue w/ the motherboard. I would check to make sure they are compatible with eachother. If there are two sticks of RAM try using them one at a time to isolate a possible RAM problem.

If you have another socket 939 CPU I would try that also in the motherboard as a last resort.

It definately sounds like some sort of power issue though; bad PSU, might be shorting out to the case... check the screws mounting the mobo etc.


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Posted By: Xenetic
Date Posted: 19/June/2006 at 12:42pm
May seem rediculous, but I have seen some "haunted cases".  Couldnt figure out the prob, switched the case and it worked.

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Posted By: Goffin
Date Posted: 19/June/2006 at 1:12pm

Originally posted by Fidelio

Guys, the power supply he has is bad ass and should be able to pump ANYTHING he puts in that case. It's  $200 power supply.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817256006 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168172560 06

 

Not saying the power supply won't suffice. I'm saying the sucker can be bad from the start.  :D

my 2 cents



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Posted By: NikorasuAE
Date Posted: 29/June/2006 at 10:26pm
Hey

Its Sparts bro, ive got the computer running you might have seen me playing a bit on NC (AokangNC). Still dont know what the probelm with teh computer was so i jsut took everything out and slapped it back in turned it on and it worked.

Unfortunatly it seems there are problems with its performance. I hate to ask another questions but could anyone give me a couple ideas what could be halted its performance

Specs:
Motherboard: Asus Premium SLI Ready
Ram: 2 gigs Corsair
Video Card: Nvidia 7950 with 1 gig of onboard ram
Processor: Dual Core Fx60 Athalon
Harddrive: Western Digital Raptor 150 gig 10k RPM
Case: Antec P180
Power Supply: 750 Watts
Soundcard: Creative Audigy2 ZS
DVD Drive and CD: Plextor something idk its a pop in it doesnty have a tray
After Market Heatsink: Too Big to fit inside case it as 120 mm fan with all copper
Thermal Paste: Artic Silver Thermal Grease
Monitor: NEC Solutions 19 Inch LCD screen
Keyboard: Saitek Eclipse
Mouse: Logitech G5

I know some of this information was not needed, but incase they was some kind of odd non compatibility i thought i would add it in.

I also my have left something out but thanks alot for your help and i hope to see you in planetside soon.


Posted By: Preach
Date Posted: 29/June/2006 at 10:36pm
You need to be more specific when you say "performance problems". Explain please.

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Posted By: SPRIGAN
Date Posted: 30/June/2006 at 12:01am
there is a problem with saitek keyboards and the human userinterface devices, if you load PS and nothing comes up but a black screen (if that is your problem). in device manager, disable the second usb HID. there was a sticky on the PS tech forums but i couldnt find it, you could do a search for it tho...




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Posted By: AquaNox
Date Posted: 30/June/2006 at 12:33am
I tried what Sprig is talking about when I had a Saitek keyboard (suggested by Fayaz at the time..I know, it blew my mind too) and I eventually ran into more problems where parts of the game would load but they would be completely white and without walls.  If you are using a Saitek, PS will still run by doing what he said, but you will still run into trouble in the long run.

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Posted By: NikorasuAE
Date Posted: 30/June/2006 at 12:38am
Performance issues i mean like im running medium graphics with moderate fps more specifially some time sroudn 40 fps consistantly in red alerts or just alerts. I dont get a black screen or any load problems as of yet with the saitek keyboard.

Edit: I would elaborate more but i have to go to bed so ic an wake up for work


Posted By: Fidelio
Date Posted: 30/June/2006 at 6:46am
try a different game and see if you still have performance issues. 


Posted By: Fayaz
Date Posted: 30/June/2006 at 4:15pm
Aye, PS performance has been rather interesting these days. Many are complaining of terrible connections (seems fine for me) and reduced frames, it could be anything really. If your system slows down in other games, it's a setup/drivers issue - if not, then it can probably be fixed with a few tweaks.

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Posted By: solitary00
Date Posted: 30/June/2006 at 4:28pm
Originally posted by NikorasuAE

Performance issues i mean like im running medium graphics with moderate fps more specifially some time sroudn 40 fps consistantly in red alerts or just alerts. I dont get a black screen or any load problems as of yet with the saitek keyboard.

Edit: I would elaborate more but i have to go to bed so ic an wake up for work


Welcome to PS.


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Posted By: maxaris
Date Posted: 30/June/2006 at 5:10pm
I was going to say the same thing sol lol, I have a 4800 x2 with 2 7800 gtx, the 512mb versions and I dont get that high of frame rates in planetside, but I do in everything else.

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Posted By: Preach
Date Posted: 30/June/2006 at 7:35pm
DX8 pwns your PC... LOLZROYCE!

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