All Points Bulletin
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Topic: All Points Bulletin
Posted By: Midnyght
Subject: All Points Bulletin
Date Posted: 29/December/2009 at 7:46am
Interesting New MMO from the makers of Crackdown: http://www.apb.com/ - http://www.apb.com/
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Posted By: Verdant Force
Date Posted: 29/December/2009 at 7:09pm
i Call driver.
this game looks pretty bad ass.
Edit:
if your going to sing up for Beta, dont use caps while writing in your email, it will see it as invalid
Watched a few of the vids on the website (podcasts)
I really dont like their respawn system..
it looks like deathmatch style respawn, where you pretty much spawn anywhere in the area...
in a game like this it would make more sence if it waited till a few guys where dead(old day of Defeat reinforcement style), and spawned them all in a vehicle together a few blocks away
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Posted By: Goffin
Date Posted: 30/December/2009 at 7:20am
GTA anybody?
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Posted By: Midnyght
Date Posted: 31/December/2009 at 12:20pm
I signed up for the beta
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Posted By: Midnyght
Date Posted: 27/May/2010 at 7:03am
This game can be pre-ordered now and is also to be released on June 29th. Everything about this game looks bad ass.
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Posted By: Midnyght
Date Posted: 27/January/2011 at 10:27am
So I guess it was bought and now its getting revamped!
http://www.gamersfirst.com/apb/ - http://www.gamersfirst.com/apb/
I signed up for close beta
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Posted By: Goffin
Date Posted: 27/January/2011 at 11:27am
Yeah, I got an email regarding this yesterday.
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Posted By: Verdant Force
Date Posted: 27/January/2011 at 5:41pm
they better not fuck the shit up again with items that give stat boosts and then pits them against people who have none.
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Posted By: Goffin
Date Posted: 23/March/2011 at 8:34pm
Got in the beta and played a little. Was crushing fools from the get go :D lol people are saying that the driving is very laggy but my system is fine. It's good to be back . They removed a lot of stuff but kept most of the character/car/music creation
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Posted By: Verdant Force
Date Posted: 24/March/2011 at 8:43pm
eh i always manage to miss the beta sign ups somehow
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Posted By: Goffin
Date Posted: 25/March/2011 at 1:39pm
http://www.gamersfirst.com/apb/?cid=live_en - http://www.gamersfirst.com/apb/?cid=live_en
Do it V! I need a wingman! the Star is now an automatic beast and everybody starts out with it.
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Posted By: Verdant Force
Date Posted: 25/March/2011 at 2:42pm
yeah, read the headline :P
its just for newletters now.
i did sing up for the, though
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Posted By: Midnyght
Date Posted: 25/March/2011 at 3:31pm
Hmmmm don't know how I didn't get in...so is it better then it was before?
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Posted By: Verdant Force
Date Posted: 26/March/2011 at 5:56pm
all they needed to do was remove the reward items and it would have been a much better game...
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Posted By: Preach
Date Posted: 26/March/2011 at 6:08pm
Is there still rampant hacking in the new version of APB?
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Posted By: Goffin
Date Posted: 27/March/2011 at 10:52am
Here's the notes of what they've done. (for mid/verdant mostly :D) There is hacking going on apparently but i've haven't witnessed it yet. Here's a comment made by a dev in regards to it.
Finally - Thanks to HackersFor the past 3 weeks we have been watching and observing user behavior in Closed Beta. We'd like to extend a "thanks" to the 60 odd players that have been toying around with various hack tools (about 0.4% of the players). Thanks to your hard cheating work, we are now much better equipped to deal with you going forward. How? I guess you will find out. Cheers,
Posted by Bjorn / TechMech
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Closed Beta 1 - Public Release Notes
Progression
Reworked from the ground up, primary changes are as follows:
- Organization Leveling has been removed from game.
- Leagues removed from the game until we can implement in a less exploitable way (League Display points are now either free or purchasable from the auction house).
- Contacts split into Weapon and Vehicle contacts, rewards split accordingly.
- Adjusted rating requirements for each contact level. This has decreased at low levels and increased at high levels.
- Majority of Existing Roles moved to Achievements. All achievements moved to 1 level only and rewards removed.
- Rebalanced Achievement requirements.
- This includes Car Thief.
- Added Roles for each piece of equipment and each weapon niche. Advancing these roles unlocks weapon upgrades and high level equipment/open slot weapons.
- Levels in Roles and Achievements no longer count towards your rating. It is now purely based on contact progression.
- Added Random Rewards (that are only gifted once), for unlocking each symbol, some pieces of jewelry, and emotes. Each contact unlocks different random rewards (around 50% chance at mission end, depending on mission performance).
- Reworked item costs for all items. Preset cost lowered, Customisable Asset prices increased. Weapon prices increased, Upgrade prices increased.
- Reduced Costs of Heat Buyoff to a trivial level.
- Removed unused tutorial contacts (Simon Tran/Pagan Bloodrose) from progression trees.
Gameplay and Miscellaneous
- Your group members now show on your radar.
- Fixed the issue where players would accidentally get into the back seat of cars when their characters were next to the front doors (original calculation was based on reticule location). Now only the front doors are considered valid options if the car is empty (note: did anyone ever really want to hang out alone in the back-seat? if so – Closed Beta participants are welcome to weigh in).
- The death camera now rotates towards your killer instead of looking at your ragdoll to provide better awareness of how you died.
- Fixed the railing grid material used extensively in Waterfront, which did not originally allow bullets to pass through it. Now player can shoot through railings properly.
- Added new roof access to the San Paro Port Authority building in Waterfront.
- Added new splash screen images.
- Added objects to block vehicles from using certain Waterfront areas to jump on rooftops and then exploiting other rooftops with no collision.
- Fixed collision issues on trees that allowed players to sit 'inside' them.
- Fixed the Ammo Vending Machine having a far too complex collision mesh.
- Made certain in-game items tradable between players that were previously not tradable.
- Progress indicators (X/Y) added to Roles and Achievement pages to provide clearer progress status.
- Camera position moved out slightly to avoid player's head overlapping crosshair when moving right (comments for new camera position sought from Closed Beta participants).
- Damage taken from falling increased. It's now possible to die from impact after falling great heights.
- Slightly increased the distance players need to fall before playing the 'heavy landing' animation.
- Negative medals (Teamkill, Killing arrested player, Suicide) are now marked as such and have had their negative effect on rewards heavily increased.
- VoIP now defaults to 'Push to Talk' instead of microphone activated (now using “Z” button by default).
- Player now stays in strafe mode for 5 seconds rather than 2 after firing/reloading.
- Pickup task items now lie close to the ground instead of floating at waist height.
- Updated Open World drop off location names; now named 'Fence', 'Chop Shop', 'Impound' and 'Evidence Locker'.
- Increased Loading Tip Time to 15 seconds from 5.
- Loading tooltips added, describing premium and leased content.
- Players can now jump and fall in marksmanship mode (jump accuracy modifier still takes effect)
- Weapons now have a separate modifier for moving at walking speed (such as when crouching or in marksmanship mode).
- Customisation pods removed from the factional areas in the Social District.
- Disabled Witnessing temporarily until we can fix it (Ready system broke it pretty heavily).
- Players who have been freed from arrest no longer give rewards for arresting or freeing until they die.
- Default keybindings have been changed to more logical layout. See chart for details.
Weapons
- All Weapons rebalanced, changing accuracy, shot damage, firing rate etc.
- Weapon Time to Kill lowered across the board (without adding extra 1 hit KO weapons)
- Accuracy model adjusted to put more importance on burst firing with most weaponry. Weapons mostly start accurate then very quickly hit their minimum accuracy threshold. The rate at which accuracy is regained after stopping firing is also much increased.
- Balancing with Effective Range reduced somewhat in favour of mainly using accuracy to determine effective range.
- SHAW moved from an anti-vehicle weapon to anti-personnel suppression weapon.
- STAR moved from slow firing long range rifle (analogous to OBEYA/OBIR) to a fast firing assault rifle (same niche as NTEC. Less accurate to begin with, but can handle being fired full auto at close/medium range without becoming unwieldy).
- HVR can once again not switch to pistol until it has completed bolting the next round.
- New weapons added to progression:
- Colby PMG-28: Low Cyclic Rate SMG.
- Joker SR-15 Carbine: Mobile close-medium range semi auto rifle.
- ALIG-762: Low Cyclic Rate LMG, anti-vehicle weapon primarily.
Items
- Renamed majority of upgrades.
- Renamed all Preset clothing items to better highlight which outfit they belong to.
- Added 'Creator Names' for each Vehicle and Preset clothing piece.
- Adjusted descriptions for all Upgrades and Weapons.
- The majority of weapon presets have been renamed.
Vehicles
- Han Cellente (original starting vehicle) removed from game.
- Added engine cut out at 20% vehicle health.
- Improved Turning speed of all low-end vehicles.
- Macchina Calabria 127 added to the game as the new default vehicle. This is a small coupe with decent acceleration, stable and responsive handling, though a low top speed.
- Balkan Kolva (Truck): Heavily Increased Weight of Vehicle. This improves its ramming power immensely, but heavily reduces its initial acceleration. Also heavily increased HP.
- Bishada GX 8800 : Renamed to Bishada Rapier and reduced maximum health.
- Patriot Jericho : Reduced maximum health, increased torque in gear 1 (improving starting acceleration)
- Patriot Vegas: Slightly improved health, acceleration heavily increased and weight increased.
- Dolton Montaine (Pickup): Improved health. Increased Top Speed to be on par with Patriot T-25 (King Cab). Increased trunk Capacity to be more than King Cab, Reduced Damping on suspension to make it a little more bouncy. Changed from Rear Wheel to Front Wheel Drive.
- Increased Weight and Health of Dolton Fresno while keeping acceleration and speed the same. Also reduced suspension damping significantly.
- Packer Ceresco (Standard Van) is now Front Wheel Drive and has the best Carrying Capacity in the game (25, compared to Armoured Van 20)
- Charge Mikro: Health very slightly down so it's just below average vehicle health, rather than just above. Grip heavily improved. Top speed reduced.
- Packer Vaquero: Health very slightly down. Top speed reduced. Incredibly bouncy suspension.
- Very minor tweaks to Sungnyemun Moirai (Exec Saloon). Upped Wheel turn distance and slightly reduced suspension stiffness.
- Upped weight of Seiyo Espacio
- Updated Nulander Pioneer. Now a bit slower, with a lower clearance, but a lot heavier (so it doesn't mount cars any more). Also enabled the Limited Slip Differential, making handling easier on rough terrain.
- Enabled the Limited Slip Differential for both SUVs (Charge Sentinel and Nulander Kurai), making handling easier on rough terrain.
- Updated Nulander Kurai. Pretty much untippable now. Much bouncier now as well. Ride height increased significantly but suspension stiffness decreased, so it'll rock and sway. Also, increased cargo capacity from 8 to 10.
- Ambulance updated. Ambulance is now a fast but very light large vehicle. It leans around corners pretty spectacularly, but doesn't really fall over much.
- Added rating requirement to previously existing pre-order vehicles. Now can be used at the same level as the normal Cisco/Morai.
- Updated Nitro Effect. Now much higher effect but much shorter duration and cooldown.
Upgrades
- Grouped Upgrades: Only one upgrade of each group can be used at a time. This is a little excessive right off the bat (especially for Character upgrades), but will become a lot more important as we add extra modifications. Groups are…
- Health (Character): Coagulant, Kevlar Implants
- Utility (Character): Happy Landings
- Activated (Character): Field Supplier
- Generic (Vehicle): Explosives, Fast-Fix Chassis
- Chassis (Vehicle) : Chassis Strengthening, Ramming Plate, Steel Plating
- Engine (Vehicle): Armoured Engine, Fireproofing
- Trunk (Vehicle): Extra Cargo Capacity
- Activated (Vehicle): Nitro Booster
- Magazine (Weapon): Bandolier, Extended Magazine, Magazine Pull
- Barrel (Weapon): Heavy Barrel, Improved Rifling, Cooling Jacket
- Upper Rail (Weapon): Reflex Sight, Hunting Sight
- Receiver (Weapon): Three Point Sling.
- Added tutorial mail explaining upgrades, how to equip, and what groups mean.
- Removed Monolith upgrade (functionally it was identical to survivor).
- Removed Energizer upgrade (LTLs are now weaker than their lethal counterparts).
Premium Accounts & Leased Items
- Set Max Primitive Limits for Free Accounts on Symbol Editor, Garage and Clothing Editor. Initially free player limits set at 25, 5 and 5 respectively. Premium Accounts get 100 primitives per Symbol, 50 Symbols per Vehicle and 50 Symbols per piece of Clothing
- Leased Weapons Added (will be random rewards initially, until the Armas Underground weapons dealer is implemented in the Social District to provide leased weapons):
- N-HVR 243 Scout: A bolt action sniper rifle with a lower calibre round than the 762, but with the ability to sprint and hang out of vehicle windows.
- OCA-626 'Whisper': A silenced SMG with a scope (we're still waiting for the audio for this, so initially it might not be silenced). Silenced weapons no longer have tracers.
- Colby CSG-20 Shotgun: A shotgun that fires a lot more pellets than the JG. It has the same damage output, but the shot dispersal is a lot more fine so you're less likely to lose a ton of damage if a pellet misses.
- Scoped N-TEC 5: An NTEC with a scope on it for a higher level of zoom. It's also got slightly less recoil so it feels the same despite the lower FOV.
- ACT44 GM: A gold plated ACT44 with an elongated barrel and a scope. Same damage potential as the normal pistol, but with an improved zoom and slightly better stability.
- STAR 556 'LCR': In APB Reloaded, the normal STAR 556 has a comparable fire rate to the NTEC. We've added the LCR for players who really liked the old one.
- OSMAW / O-PGL: Just the base Rocket Launcher / Grenade Launcher. We've allowed players to purchase them as leased weapons if they can't wait to get them.
Client Size, Performance and Other
- Integrated the game with GamersFirst accounts and backend systems.
- Updated and activated PunkBuster.
- Various small run-time memory usage savings totaling ~50MB.
- Client size has been reduced from 8GB for the original game to 5GB for the Closed Beta RC1 (note: with future procedural texture inclusion and patch modifications, the target is to get the full client download to 3 GB without noticeable quality reductions).
- Updated VoIP system to address various voice issues.
- Improved the in-game compatibility checks at startup:
- Updated the list of detected graphics cards from the latest compat file from Epic, as well as published lists of cards from amd.com and nvidia.com.
- Updated the preferred compat level for each card to roughly match the expected performance.
- Updated lots of cards that wouldn't be able to run the game but were originally given a supported compat level. Those cards probably crashed in the earlier release (without warning).
- If a component doesn't meet the minimum requirements we now tell the user which component is the problem, instead of just displaying a generic error message.
Updated Control Scheme
Updates to the control scheme are below but all bindings can be customised by the player. A full listing of the default controls is later in this document.
- Movement – “Crouch” is now bound to 'Left Control' as well as 'C'.
- Movement – “Walk” has been unbound from 'X'. Players can manually rebind this if they wish.
- Combat – “Activate/Deactivate Field Supplier” has been moved from 'F1' to '5'.
- Combat – “Throw Grenade” has been moved from 'Left Control' to 'G', and is also bound to the Middle Mouse Button.
- Combat – “Switch Weapons” has also been bound to '2', so that players can use '1', '2', or the Mouse Wheel to switch weapons.
- Actions – “Drop Item” has been moved from 'Z' to 'X'.
- Actions – The “Player Interaction Menu” has been moved from 'V' to '.' (period).
- Actions – “Ready for Mission” has been moved from 'O' to 'K', to avoid confusion with '0' (zero).
- Actions – “Voice – Push to Talk” has been moved from '7' to 'Z' to make it reachable without having to move one of your hands.
- Camera – “Look Behind” has been moved from 'G' to 'Alt'.
- Camera – “Switch Camera Side” has been moved from '4' to 'V'.
- Music – “Previous Track” has been moved from ',' (comma) to '['.
- Music – “Next Track” has been moved from '.' (period) To ']'.
- Music – “Pause/Resume Playback” has also been bound to '\', so that players can use that or 'Right Control'.
- Interface – “Clan Management” has been moved from '[' to ',' (comma).
- Interface – “View Support Pages” (Help) has been moved from 'K' to 'F1'.
- Interface – “View Leagues/High Score Tables” has been moved from 'F4' to 'F6'.
- Interface – “Chat Channel Commands” has been moved from 'F6' to 'F9'.
- Interface – “Chat Console Commands” has been moved from 'F7' to 'F10'.
- Interface – “Chat Emote Commands” has been moved from 'F8' to 'F11'.
- Interface – “Screenshot” has been moved from 'Pause' to 'Print Screen'.
- Interface – “Toggle HUD” display has been moved from 'End' to 'F12'.
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Posted By: Verdant Force
Date Posted: 27/March/2011 at 2:11pm
i like most of it...
Cant say i'm a fan of having only the front doors "Valid" when the car is empty.
Many times in this game you rush to your car and multiple people jump in at the same time. would be awkward to have to get in in a specific order when your in a hurry
Also, Hopefully upgrades only have "1" level and are easily accessible and balanced... so its more of a choice as to what upgrade you want, and not "you NEED THIS ONE AND MUST PLAY FOREVER TO HAVE IT"
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Posted By: Midnyght
Date Posted: 28/March/2011 at 8:41am
On the website it says its going to be free to download and free to play my only worry is there is going to be an item shop...but will be nice not having to buy the game again...heh.
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Posted By: Goffin
Date Posted: 29/March/2011 at 7:47am
Originally posted by Midnyght
On the website it says its going to be free to download and free to play my only worry is there is going to be an item shop...but will be nice not having to buy the game again...heh.
Yeah, the free2play is going to be a joke. I'm just messing around getting my 50 bucks in . I'm mostly just driving dump trucks around trying to get hate tells. The solo aspect is dull and most of the groups you get paired with are so clueless or they don't care. Keep checking mid. They're going to release 10,000 more keys soon.
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Posted By: Midnyght
Date Posted: 02/May/2011 at 8:02am
I finally got accepted to closed beta
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Posted By: Goffin
Date Posted: 02/May/2011 at 4:30pm
Originally posted by Midnyght
I finally got accepted to closed beta
If you want a wingman, hit me up. The game is fun for about 10 minutes
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Posted By: Midnyght
Date Posted: 05/May/2011 at 8:23am
I see they are allowing your old characters into beta. Not sure if I will get a chance to play this anytime soon...lacking the free time.
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Posted By: Verdant Force
Date Posted: 27/May/2011 at 12:24pm
Open beta now.
the server ping is really high for me (400-500)
makes driving complicated heh
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Posted By: Goffin
Date Posted: 27/May/2011 at 4:37pm
Did you try the joker server by chance?
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Posted By: Verdant Force
Date Posted: 27/May/2011 at 7:31pm
yeah. are the others better?
also, im a crim again.
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Posted By: Goffin
Date Posted: 28/May/2011 at 4:19pm
It's been awhile but i'm pretty sure somebody said the servers are not where they are supposed to be by region.
We should play somtime ![](http://www.1cmm.net/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
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Posted By: Verdant Force
Date Posted: 28/May/2011 at 11:38pm
turns out somebody else was using the internet, and thats why my ping was so high.
Normals about 40-50.
i was playing earlier today and i ran across this one guy a couple times who kept calling me an "SMG noob", we kept fighting inside close quarter areas and he was using an Obeya lol. And then, we finally get to an Open erea, and i switch my gun to the star. The dude flips his lid! he was like "How dare you use an OP Weapon for so long, then change your weapon when i have the advantage"
it was hilarious to see how bad some people are at this game. i see now why i like this game... its kind of like planetside in the sense that you dont win by outshooting, but out smarting and outplaying.
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Posted By: Goffin
Date Posted: 29/May/2011 at 6:15am
I can only imagine. The rate of noobness in the closed beta was amazing. I tried for like a week to be patient with these groups I would get that didn't have a clue what they were doing. i was the only one showing up for events. If I didn't get randoms, I was squaded with some russian's that were always testing hacks lol that's why I just would find a dump truck and you know the rest.
Glad your ping is back to normal. I still got my little asian guy but lost my doritio's van which i'm bummed out. :(
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Posted By: Verdant Force
Date Posted: 29/May/2011 at 8:51pm
Money is pretty easy to come by, get to Notoriety 4, turn off missions and just ran raid.
you get 1.5 bonus for when you turn the item in, and another 1.5 bonus when you launder the money.
i like the new driving physics, the cars have more power, and the tires have less grip. it was unnatural before you could never slide around a corner
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