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Bhopx
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Posted: 10/January/2007 at 2:48pm |
personally, i wouldnt go with an LCD monitor. I've seen even a 2ms Viewsonic LCD monitor have ghosting with FPS games unless v-sync is turned on. id rather go with CRT for gaming.
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Posted: 10/January/2007 at 2:55pm |
Not sure what kind of LCDs you've seen Bhop... but they must have been crappy ones. I use a 20" Samsung SyncMaster 204B for gaming... and this thing is a beast. There isn't any ghosting at all. A couple other 1CMM members have the same monitor and they love it.
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Posted: 10/January/2007 at 3:01pm |
i know two people that got this monitor which is supposed to be the best possible LCD for gaming. both had ghosting with FPS games, one returned it and got a CRT instead http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824116375
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Posted: 10/January/2007 at 3:11pm |
i guess that config on cyberpower is a decent price, this is what i configured on newegg Qty. |
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Posted: 10/January/2007 at 3:32pm |
I'd also go for a 6600 over an X2. On paper, AMD seems the way to go. In reality, however, the X2 seems to cripple for some pc titles. Unreal & Quake engine based games are almost unplayable. Whether the performance loss is due to the developers or poor instruction handling on the CPU is irrelevant, it's a great processor and a great value for applications/rendering/what-have-you, but the Core 2 Duo still rocks for gaming.
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Posted: 10/January/2007 at 3:37pm |
Well... I'm here to tell you Bhop that the Samsung SyncMaster 204B has no ghosting when gaming. I love this over my ViewSonic 19" CRT.
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Posted: 10/January/2007 at 5:23pm |
yeh elcyco got an X2 and he tells me that when he uses the dual core optimizer he gets horrible mouse lag and sluggish controls in UT, and if he turns it off BF2/2124 is unplayable. Ive got an athlon 64 3700+ and was thinking of upgrading to an X2 eventually but ive heard about them having way too many problems with games.
i would go with E6600 on the high end or pentium D805 for overclocking on the low end.
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Posted: 10/January/2007 at 5:25pm |
Originally posted by Preach
Well... I'm here to tell you Bhop that the Samsung SyncMaster 204B has no ghosting when gaming. I love this over my ViewSonic 19" CRT.
well, this is the monitor that i was eyeing, maybe ill give it a go someday. It's $100 less than the one you have. any words of wisdom on using an LCD for gaming fayaz? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824001088
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Posted: 10/January/2007 at 5:54pm |
Originally posted by Preach
Not sure what kind of LCDs you've seen Bhop... but they must have been crappy ones. I use a 20" Samsung SyncMaster 204B for gaming... and this thing is a beast. There isn't any ghosting at all. A couple other 1CMM members have the same monitor and they love it.
I got 2 of the 19" 930B but I recentlt got the westinghouse lcm-22" wide screen. I have not had any problems with any of them. When I bought the westinghouse I was a little worried about gaming (bought it mainly for detailing on autocad) but it plays Planetside just fine. Only small problem is Planetside not supporting the widescreen resolutions. I have to manually set the resolution in the machine files and any time I go into the settings it reverts to 800x600 so I have to exit out and reset the machine file.
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Posted: 10/January/2007 at 6:51pm |
I was always partial towards classic monitors because they had superior colour calibration tools, refresh rates and response times, and at the time, LCDs were blurry, had an ugly yellowish tint and simply weren't bright enough.
But they've come a long way over the years. You certainly get what you pay for, though bargains exists, and you don't always have to go for designer brands.
I have two wide-22" at work and a 19" back at home, and I love 'em. For PS and gaming, I play on a laptop. Laptop displays are arguably inferior to today's LCDs, and even that works just fine.
More importantly, you'll save tons of desk space... I now have room for my teddy bear collection and such.
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