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Preach
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Posted: 03/January/2007 at 8:35pm |
I fully realize I have a completely biased opinion towards the military and the US government. I love the US military, I love our government, and I love our leaders. Do they always make the right decisions? Of course not. They are only human, but that is our system, and I wouldn't have it any other way. I'm very critical of those who speak ill (via verbal, written, or other forms of communication) of the US government, and especially our armed forces. But one of the main reasons myself and many others serve (whether they know it or not) is to protect the freedom of speech which us Americans hold so dear.
Do I agree with what this person is doing? No. I think it is in very poor taste. But it is his/her right to express themselves freely. As cheesy as it sounds though, the "freedom" of speech doesn't come freely, and it upsets me when people take that for granted and cr@p on the military.
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Tybox
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Posted: 03/January/2007 at 8:39pm |
probably right abou the intelligence part.
After all, what percentage of our armed forces is made up of the lower-class, poorly educated masses?
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Posted: 03/January/2007 at 8:45pm |
Are you seriously saying the military is comprised of mostly uneducated (ie: stupid) people? That is just completely ignorant.
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ap0ck
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Posted: 03/January/2007 at 8:52pm |
no preach its not ignorant. its a fact that the majority of the military is made up from people who are from those backgrounds. often because they dont have access to the opprotunities that your classic white middle/upper class have. ie secondary education,access to higher paying jobs etc not to say the military is a dead end job, no doubt it offers far more opprotunities than would normaly be available. however it doesnt come with out risk.
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Preach
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Posted: 03/January/2007 at 8:54pm |
Sorry, but you are completely, and 100% incorrect. That is one of the most ignorant statements to make; that the US military is comprised of uneducated and stupid people.
Because according to your logic non Caucasians are stupid, and those non Caucasians make up the bulk of the US military. See how ignorant that is?
Please know what you are talking about before making such baseless and incorrect statements.
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ap0ck
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Posted: 03/January/2007 at 8:59pm |
i disagree. please stop puttin words in my mouth. i didnt say that they were all stupid and uneducated people, or that caucasions are stupid. but for a large portion of people who dont have many other options than joining the military.
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Posted: 03/January/2007 at 9:01pm |
You didn't say that? Are you kidding me? Scroll up and read what you typed. I am not putting any words in your mouth.
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Posted: 03/January/2007 at 9:01pm |
Wow Tybo you sure your not John Kerry (just kidding ). I totally agree with Preach, the armed forces is made up from people of all backgrounds. Yes there are some people from lower class who arent the most educated, but the military does have standards and they dont take just anyone. A perfect example of someone who was well off but joined the military was Pat Tillman.
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ap0ck
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Posted: 03/January/2007 at 9:15pm |
well after some polking around your right its not accurate to say poorer poeple. lower class etc. however most recruits do not have a secondary education which i think tybo was refereing too, and i stumbled with my wording. however it is interesting how the wealthy/american leaders whether for/against dont have children enlisted.
"This progression from participation to evasion
to near total absence bodes poorly for the future defense of America in
the age of terror. When leaders of the past evoked the concept of
shared sacrifice, few could doubt their sincerity. Sacrifice today is
shared by a dwindling pool of citizens, most of them drawn from less
affluent ranks of society. How long will soldiers follow where their
leaders dare not go?"
Jules Tygiel.
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Jersey
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Posted: 04/January/2007 at 3:31am |
Im willing to bet Preach is a republican.
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